Category: football


Total players drafted from the SEC/total players drafted from 2003-2012: 401/2552 – 15.7%

Which NFL teams drafted the most SEC players?

Atlanta Falcons – 22
Cincinnati Bengals – 22
New England Patriots – 19
Kansas City Chiefs – 18
Seattle Seahawks – 17
Chicago Bears – 16
Denver Broncos – 16
Minnesota Vikings – 16
Carolina Panthers – 15
Indianapolis Colts – 15
Green Bay Packers – 14
Philadelphia Eagles – 14
San Francisco 49ers – 14
Miami Dolphins – 13
San Diego Chargers – 12
Tampa Bay Buccaneers – 12
Tennessee Titans – 12
Baltimore Ravens – 11
Buffalo Bills – 11
Dallas Cowboys – 11
New York Giants – 11
Arizona Cardinals – 10
Houston Texans – 10
Pittsburgh Steelers – 10
Cleveland Browns – 9
New Orleans Saints – 8
Oakland Raiders – 8
St. Louis Rams – 8
Washington Redskins – 8
Jacksonville Jaguars – 7
New York Jets – 7
Detroit Lions – 5

In total, there are 124 players drafted from the SEC no longer in the league. 124/401 players drafted gives a 30.9% percent no longer in the league.

Bust Rate for Each School and Pro Bowl Appearances (since 2003)

Georgia: 22/56
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 4

LSU: 14/56
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 10

Florida: 19/48
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 7

Alabama: 10/45
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 9

Tennessee: 14/39
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 16

Auburn: 7/33
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 11

South Carolina: 11/31
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 3

Arkansas: 12/29
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 6

Ole Miss: 6/21
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 12

Mississippi State: 1/16
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 1

Kentucky: 6/15
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 0

Vanderbilt: 2/12
Total All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 1

Total SEC All Pro/Pro Bowl appearances: 80

School breakdown with recent, highest pick:

Alabama: Marcell Dareus 3rd
1st – 11
2nd – 7
3rd – 6
4th – 2
5th – 7
6th – 3
7th – 9

QB – 2
RB – 6
WR – 2
TE – 1
OL – 7
DL – 10
LB – 6
CB – 7
S – 4
K – 0
P – 0

Arkansas: Darren McFadden 4th
1st – 6
2nd – 3
3rd – 4
4th – 5
5th – 4
6th – 2
7th – 5

QB – 1
RB – 4
WR – 5
TE – 1
OL – 7
DL – 5
LB – 1
CB – 2
S – 3
K – 0
P – 0

Auburn: Cam Newton 1st
1st – 7
2nd – 8
3rd – 2
4th – 4
5th – 2
6th – 3
7th – 7

QB – 2
RB – 4
WR – 4
TE – 0
OL – 6
DL – 8
LB – 3
CB – 6
S – 0
K – 0
P – 0

Florida: Joe Haden 7th
1st – 9
2nd – 8
3rd – 6
4th – 8
5th – 6
6th – 3
7th – 8

QB – 2
RB – 3
WR – 7
TE – 4
OL – 5
DL – 13
LB – 4
CB – 5
S – 5
K – 0
P – 0

Georgia: Matthew Stafford 1st
1st – 8
2nd – 8
3rd – 10
4th – 11
5th – 4
6th – 6
7th – 9

QB – 3
RB – 5
WR – 5
TE – 4
OL – 9
DL – 13
LB – 7
CB – 5
S – 3
K – 2
P – 0

Kentucky: Dewayne Robinson 4th
1st – 1
2nd – 1
3rd – 2
4th – 4
5th – 1
6th – 4
7th – 2

QB – 1
RB – 2
WR – 4
TE – 1
OL – 0
DL – 4
LB – 1
CB – 1
S – 1
K – 0
P – 0

LSU: JaMarcus Russell 1st
1st – 12
2nd – 5
3rd – 12
4th – 9
5th – 4
6th – 3
7th – 11

QB – 3
RB – 7
WR – 11
TE – 1
OL – 4
DL – 14
LB – 3
CB – 7
S – 5
K – 0
P – 1

Mississippi State: Fletcher Cox 12th
1st – 2
2nd – 0
3rd – 1
4th – 3
5th – 5
6th – 3
7th – 2

QB – 0
RB – 4
WR – 0
TE – 1
OL – 2
DL – 4
LB – 4
CB – 0
S – 1
K – 0
P – 0

Ole Miss: Eli Manning 1st
1st – 5
2nd – 2
3rd – 2
4th – 2
5th – 2
6th – 5
7th – 3

QB – 1
RB – 2
WR – 1
TE – 0
OL – 8
DL – 3
LB – 2
CB – 2
S – 2
K – 0
P – 0

South Carolina: Troy Williamson 7th
1st – 5
2nd – 2
3rd – 3
4th – 3
5th – 4
6th – 4
7th – 10

QB – 0
RB – 3
WR – 4
TE – 2
OL – 3
DL – 5
LB – 5
CB – 7
S – 3
K – 2
P – 0

Tennessee: Eric Berry 5th
1st – 7
2nd – 5
3rd – 6
4th – 2
5th – 11
6th – 3
7th – 5

QB – 2
RB – 3
WR – 4
TE – 3
OL – 4
DL – 10
LB – 7
CB – 2
S – 3
K – 0
P – 1

Vanderbilt: Jay Cutler 11th
1st – 2
2nd – 1
3rd – 2
4th – 1
5th – 2
6th – 2
7th – 2

QB – 1
RB – 0
WR – 1
TE – 0
OL – 3
DL – 1
LB – 3
CB – 3
S – 0
K – 0
P – 0

Players drafted from SEC/players drafted total:

QB: 18/128 = 14.1%

RB: 42/223 = 18.8%

WR: 48/324 = 14.8%

TE: 17/147 = 11.6%

OL: 58/432 = 13.4%

DL: 90/450 = 20%

LB: 46/302 = 15.2%

CB: 47/310 = 15.2%

S: 30/192 = 15.6%

K: 3/21 = 14.3%

P: 2/22 = 9.09%

Gator Draftees 2013

 

Congratulations to the former Florida Gators that were selected in the 2013 NFL Draft! This year, the Gators had 8 players drafted, and another 6 will be fighting for roster spots as undrafted free agents:

  • Sharrif Floyd, Minnesota Vikings, Round 1 – #24 (#24)
  • Matt Elam, Baltimore Ravens, Round 1 – #32 (#32)
  • Jon Bostic, Chicago Bears, Round 2 – #19 (#50)
  • Jordan Reed, Washington Redskins, Round 3 – #23 (#85)
  • Jelani Jenkins, Miami Dolphins, Round 4 – #7 (#104)
  • Mike Gillislee, Miami Dolphins, Round 5 – #31 (#164)
  • Caleb Sturgis, Miami Dophins, Round 5 – #33 (#166)
  • Josh Evans, Jacksonville Jaguars, Round 6 – #1 (#169)

The following players have signed as undrafted free agents (UDFA):

  • Frankie Hammonds, Kansas City Chiefs
  • Omarius Hines, Baltimore Ravens
  • Omar Hunter, Pittsburgh Steelers
  • Lerentee McCray, Denver Broncos
  • Xavier Nixon, Washington Redskins
  • Earl Okine, Houston Texans

The only two Draft-eligible Gators left are Sam Robey and James Wilson. Former Gator and Louisville Cardinal transfer Adrian Bushnell signed as a UDFA with the Oakland Raiders. Former Gator and UCF Black Knight Ray Shipman has signed with the New Orleans Saints.

http://www.profootballrosters.com/2012/08/13/top-nfl-pipelines-by-school/

The Florida Gators are tied with the Notre Dame Drunken Irish and others for #9 on the list of college football programs that are pipelines to the NFL.

FSU and the SEC

Don’t get me wrong–I grew up rooting for both the Florida State Seminoles and the Florida Gators. As I grew older, I saw that FSU fans were ruining my football experience with their attitudes as fans. That is just personal opinion based on personal experience. If you do not like it, then get your own blog. Below is an article I found on a Seminole fan site about why FSU is not in the SEC. Keep in mind that this was written by an FSU fan, not a UF fan.

FSU and the SEC

Note: The SEC has roots back to 1894 when seven schools formed the Southeastern Intercollegiate Athletic Association. Twelve more members were added in the first year and by 1920, the SIAA included 30 schools. In December of that year, the larger schools formed the Southern Conference. By 1928, that conference had grown to 23 schools. Between 1894 and 1928 the sprawling SIAA and SC included members from Virginia to Texas.

In 1932, 13 schools broke from the Southern Conference and formed the SEC: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Sewanee, Tennessee, Tulane and Vanderbilt. Sewanee never won a league football game and withdrew from the conference in 1940. Georgia Tech withdrew in 1964 and Tulane in 1966. In 1990, Arkansas and South Carolina were added.


From the Florida Times Union, 11/21/1955, page 22.

TALLAHASSEE, FL, November 20, 1955 – Dr. Howard Danford, athletic director of Florida State University, said FSU hoped eventually to be admitted to the Southeastern Conference but added, “we don’t want to be premature.”

“The SEC is the only logical conference for us to get into from a geographical standpoint,” Danford said. “But that depends on two things: increase in the size of our stadium and the ability of our football team to beat some of the SEC members.”

He said the stadium now has only a 19,000 seat capacity.


From the Florida Times Union, 11/30/1955, page 14.

TALLAHASSEE, FL, November 29, 1955 – Florida State University will make formal application for membership in the Southeastern Conference at the conference’s regular meeting in Nashville early next month.

Dr. Howard G. Danford, FSU athletic director, said today he will file the application formally at the SEC’s meeting December 8-9-10.

To become a member of the conference, a school must submit an application, be sponsered by a member institution and must be accepted by a vote of the conference members.

Danford did not indicate who would sponsor Florida State. The University of Florida is the only other SEC member in the state at present although the University of Miami has applied for membership.

FSU at present is an independent. It formerly was a member of the old Dixie Conference but dropped out after it began beating other members at football with monotonous regularity.

State had football games with two SEC members this season and lost both.


From the Florida Times Union, 10/07/1958, page 11.

JACKSONVILLE, FL, October 6, 1958 – Don’t look now but the Southeastern Conference has its own lonesome end – Florida State University.

And the Seminoles are using outstanding performances against the SEC’s own Georgia Tech and highly regarded Wake Forest as signs from the Tallahassee flank that they want in.

Coach Tom Nugent, who addressed the Jacksonville Quarterback Club last night, admitted his team “is not big league right now.”

“We play exciting football, that’s all I can promise you,” the suave native of Massachusetts told some 200 club members. Despite Nugent’s modestness, both Bobby Dodd, Georgia Tech’s grid boss, and Paul Amen, whose Deacons were upended by the Seminoles Saturday night, have acclaimed FSU “as a team which could hold its own in the SEC.”

As for FSU’s long range football plans, Nugent admits he’d like to join the SEC. “But right now the league is a bit unwieldy with 12 teams. We’d have to wait until it is split up.”


From the Florida Times Union, 7/19/1959, page 27.

TALLAHASSEE, FL, July 18, 1959 – Florida State University set out in earnest today to win a berth in the top rated Southeastern Conference. At the same time, FSU announced a 1960 football schedule featuring three SEC opponents.

President Robert M. Strozier wrote letters to the presidents of the 12 SEC schools urging that FSU be admitted.

He said FSU is qualified by size, academic and athletic achievement and diversity for the SEC, noting an anticipated enrollment of 8,200 students this fall. The school has for the past few years followed SEC regulations on athletic scholarship and eligibility requirements.

In competition with SEC teams during the past 12 years, independent Florida State has compiled an all time record of 147 victories against 102 losses and four ties in eight sports.

Its record against SEC teams in football has been poor, all losses except one victory over Tennessee. Its first SEC football opponent was Georgia Tech in 1952.

Kentucky will be a newcomer to the FSU schedule in 1960 and Auburn returns to the schedule after a two year absence. The third SEC opponent, the University of Florida, made its first appearance on the schedule last year and is a top opponent this season.

Also returning to the FSU schedule after a two year absence is independent Mississippi Southern. Only other new opponent in 1960 will be the University of Houston.

Other games will feature Richmond, Wake Forest, The Citadel, Miami and William and Mary.

Coach Perry Moss said seven of the 10 games in 1960 will be played in Florida, five of them here. FSU meets Florida in Gainesville September 24 and Miami in Miami November 4.

“It’s a tough well balanced schedule,” said Moss, who will field his first team for FSU this year.


From the Florida Times Union, 9/20/1959, page 38.

TALLAHASSEE, FL, September 19, 1959 – Florida State University reported today it was making progress in a determined bid for Southeastern Conference membership.

Dr. Robert M. Strozier, university president, told the State Board of Control the influential Faculty Committee on Intercollegiate Athletics at the University of Florida had decided to back FSU as well as the University of Miami.

Previously the University of Florida had been a backer of Miami but FSU, a relative newcomer to intercollegiate football, has suffered for lack of a sponsor.

Dr. Strozier said there were reports that a move might be made at the January meeting of the conference to split the loop into two sections so that such teams as FSU, Miami and Houston coud be admitted.

The FSU president read to the board a letter from HP Constans, chairman of the University of Florida committee, reporting that the committee had recommended to Florida President J Wayne Reitz that he propose expansion of the conference.

“If this change is made the committee recommends that the University of Florida continue its sponsorship of the University of Miami and that we also sponsor Florida State University for inclusion in the conference,” Constans said.

Dr. Strozier commented, “I think this is a big step forward.”

Florida State University has been playing an increasingly heavy schedule and last year upset Tennessee, 10-0, for its first win over a Southeastern Conference team. This year FSU plays Florida and Georgia in the conference and next year it tackles Florida, Auburn and Kentucky.

Dr. Strozier wrote presidents of all Southeastern Conference schools last July urging consideration of Florida State for membership. He said he had received replies from all of them and no one voiced any opposition to the proposal although no one said he would specifically back FSU.

He said FSU was comparable to SEC schools in size with an enrollment of 8,000 this fall; that FSU had been following SEC regulations on scheduling and eligibility requirements; that FSU was comparable with respect to diversity and quality of its athletic program, and was in a favorable position geographically.

“We are less than 400 miles from six members of your conference and four are less than 300 miles,” he said. “As you perhaps realize, the proximity of opponents has a favorable effect economically, especially in the lower budgeted, or so called minor sports.”


From the Florida Times Union, 10/25/1962, page 37

Florida State for years has harbored an ambition to become a member of the Southeastern Conference. A personal belief is that both FSU and the SEC would benefit from such a development.

FSU would like to get in. At least several members of the conference would like to see FSU get in. But, mere wishing won’t make it so. It will take a lot of spadework, some of which has already been done.

In Tallahassee the other night, Jim Whatley, a member of the University of Georgia coaching staff cited six reasons to a Quarterback Club audience as to why FSU should be in the SEC.

1. It would result in a better balanced conference.

2. FSU has better athletic facilities than half of the 12 SEC schools.

3. FSU has a larger student body than most of the SEC schools.

4. The caliber of SEC football competition would be improved.

5. The guarantees FSU gives SEC teams for playing in Tallahassee equals or exceeds the guarantee more than half the SEC teams give one another.

6. FSU has a better all-around sports program than eight of the present conference members.

The above reasons would seem to serve as sufficient evidence that Florida State fills any possible requirements it would have to meet for membership. Scholastically, I have no doubt that FSU’s standards are at least as high as the heavy majority of the member schools.

Not too many years ago, the University of Miami was hot after SEC membership. It isn’t anymore for a number of reasons, chief of which is that UM feels its present policy of football scheduling appeals to more of its fans than if it was committed to at least six SEC games each year.

Naturally, in any sort of established conference like this there is reluctance on the part of some of the members to upset the status quo.

Before the Seminoles get in, they’ll have to do an intensive selling job.

It’s not impossible, however, and…as mentioned…the development should prove mutually beneficial.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/20/1963, page 29

ATLANTA, GA, January 19, 1963 – A push to put Florida State in the 12-team Southeastern Conference should highlight business this week at the SEC’s annual meeting.

Fast growing FSU will be sponsered by the University of Florida. It’ll take a majority vote by conference presidents Firday to boost the league to the 13 members it had when it was formed in 1933.

The SEC has voted down several attempts to enlarge itself since Sewanee dropped out in 1940. FSU has tried before, as have Miami, Houston and Southern Mississippi.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/23/1963, page 14

ATLANTA, GA, January 22, 1963 – Florida State, which has grown since World War II from a school for girls to a co-ed institution with enough muscle to battle just about anyone on the athletic field, makes a new bid this week for membership in the Southeastern Conference.

The Seminoles’ latest bid comes at the annual SEC meeting which gets underway here tomorrow at the Biltmore Hotel. The University of Florida, FSU’s cross-state rival, is sponsoring the Seminoles’ bid and has placed the question on the agenda.

FSU’s bid for membership would appear valid. The Seminoles met five SEC teams in football last fall, beating Georgia, tying Georgia Tech, Auburn and Kentucky and losing only to Florida.

The Seminoles play a total of 13 basketball games against SEC foes this winter. Their record so far in SEC play is only 4-7 but last year it was 6-2.

Florida Athletic Director Ray Graves pointed out recently that he favors FSU’s admission to the SEC because he is now forced to play the Seminoles annually in football. With a schedule that includes six SEC games plus games with intrastate rivals FSU and Miami. Florida is able to schedule only two intersectional games each season, Graves said.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/25/1963, page 18

ATLANTA, GA, January 24, 1963 – Florida State Athletic Director Vaughan Mancha threw in the towel today on the Seminoles’ hopes for joining the Southeastern Conference in the near future but insisted the day would come when the conference would open its doors.

The broad shouldered former University of Alabama great pointed out that Florida State will soon have 15,000 students, more than any of the present 12 SEC members now have, and that the Seminoles are already battling SEC teams on just about even terms.

“The day will come when the Southeastern Conference will consider Florida State a valuable asset,” Mancha told United Press International.

But he agreed with speculation that this would not be the year. He said he figured FSU’s hopes for admission hinge either on the SEC expanding to 14 schools or the withdrawal of one or more of the present members.

“Our admission would give the conference 13 members and I can well see how this would create all sorts of scheduling difficulties,” Mancha said.

The University of Florida, a conference member, made a pitch for Florida State’s admission today at a closed meeting of SEC athlectic directors and head football coaches.

Ray Graves, Florida athletic director and football coach pointed out he had a personal reason for wanting the Seminoles in the conference. His Gators have to play FSU each year anyway and he’d like to have that game count as one of the six Florida must play against SEC members to qualify for the league championship.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/19/1964, page 48

ATLANTA, GA, January 18, 1964 – One subject that is sure to come up again when the Southeastern Conference holds its annual meeting here this week is the never-ending efforts of independents Florida State and Memphis State to join the league.

All previous efforts have met with failure and it is highly unlikely that there’ll be any more success this time.

But athletic directors Vaughn Mancha of Florida State and Gene Lambert of Memphis State are incurable optimists who insist if they keep knocking at the SEC door long enough, something has to give.

Both of these schools have had considerable contact with SEC members on the Atlantic fields in recent years, especially in football and basketball, but playing and belonging continue to remain two entirely different categories.

Opposition against the admission of Florida State and Memphis State to the now 12-member conference is based largely on the general feeling that the seven-state conference is too big and unwieldy already. Many feel the trend should be toward reducing rather than enlarging the league.

They point out that under the present 12-team setup, it’s impossible to have a round-robin in football or the preferred home-and-away schedule with all other conference teams in basketball. This situation creates turmoil when it comes to deciding championships.

Mancha, an All-America Center at Alabama during World War II, is extremely anxious to get FSU into the Southeastern Conference. He was on hand at last year’s conference meeting, making a strong pitch for the Seminoles – although to no avail.

He said then that he was “very helpful” that there would be a realignment of the SEC within the next few years and that Florida State would figure in that realignment.

This past season, Florida State played only three football games against SEC teams and lost them all. But, in 1962, the Seminoles had a 1-1-3 record against five SEC teams, only one less than a league member must meet to qualify for the championship.

Memphis State showed that it’s ready for SEC competition by tying Mississippi and beating Mississippi State. The Tigers have a 4-1 record against SEC basketball teams this winter, losing only to 6th-ranked Vanderbilt by six points at Nashville.

Both of these independents base their hopes in part on rumors that as many as three SEC schools may withdraw from the conference within the next couple of years. They figure that rather than cut back, the league would open the door to them as the vacancies develop.

This year’s SEC meeting will be held here at the Americana next Thursday and Friday. Saturday morning has been set aside in case there’s any unfinished business, but it’s unlikely the meeting will run beyond Friday.

The faculty representatives, athletic directors, coaches and other officials of the member schools will arrive on Wednesday. They have a half dozen separate sessions set for Thursday with two full-scale business meetings set for Friday. The annual convention dinner will be Thursday night.

One of the most controversial issues expected to come before the the meeting is the subject of grants-in-aid. There is a difference of opinion both on the number of such grants that should be allowed and the academic requirements for them.

It has been reported that Georgia Tech is so upset over this issue that the Engineers, charter members of the 31-year-old conference, might go independent if changes are not made. Tech wants the right to recruit 40 to 45 new players each year without regard to the total number of scholarship boys in school.

The present rule allows 45 new grants-in-aid each year and an overall total of 140 for football and basketball combined.

Georgia Tech, Tulane and Vanderbilt have all expressed concern over the fact that entrance requirements at some schools are much stiffer than at others and want high uniform requirements established.

The grants-in-aid debate could be the key that opens the SEC door to Florida State and Memphis State.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/25/1964, page 9

ATLANTA, GA, January 24, 1964 – Georgia Tech withdrew from the SEC due to the grants-in aid issue.

Although the University of Florida had an expansion motion on the agenda aimed at getting now independent Florida State into the conference, there was no action taken.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/24/1965, page 50

ATLANTA, GA, January 23, 1965 – The annual meeting of the Southeastern Conference will begin in Atlanta Wednesday with the departure of Tulane, the discussion of a round-robin football schedule and the status of Commissioner Bernie Moore the key items up for consideration.

Other items most likely to be discussed are the possibility of conference expansion to include Florida State, although this move is expected to be voted down, and a plan to raise the overall limit on the number of football and basketball scholarships.

Tulane’s relationship with the SEC was to have been the main order of business, but the school clarified its position December 31 by announcing it would pull out of the league in 1966.

Tulane’s departure, which follows by one year the withdrawal of Georgia Tech, leaves the conference with 10 members and paves the way for the round-robin schedule. Barring last minute difficulties, this item is assured to pass.

On the only other major issue facing the conference, Florida will again sponsor for membership Florida State, one of the South’s leading independents. FSU Athletic Director Vaughn Mancha holds high hopes of getting in this year, but conference sentiment is running against expansion.

The general feeling is that a conference of 10 schools is big enough.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/30/1965, page 12

ATLANTA, GA, January 29, 1965 – …

Turned down Florida State’s attempt to gain admission by not giving the motion a second.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/29/1966, page 18

BIRMINGHAM, AL, January 28, 1966 – …

They (the SEC school presidents) refused to admit any new members, leaving Florida State and Memphis State standing on the threshold again.


From the Florida Times Union, 2/8/1966, page 10

Editors note: These are the guys who are supposedly sponsoring us for membership!

Ordinarily, you wouldn’t expect the athletic director and head football coach at the University of Florida to say anything of particular significance as far as Florida State is concerned, but Ray Graves touched on a couple of things which affect the Seminoles when he spoke to a gathering of Florida alumni in Jacksonville recently.

One of these involved the chances – or lack of chances – for further expansion of the Southeastern Conference.

It is well known that FSU has long nurtured ambitions to become a member of the SEC. All attempts at achieving this goal have thus far been a failure, and if Graves is right, the chances for success in the future are nil.

“Changing anything is pretty difficult,” Graves commented. “The feeling is that there are too many teams in the conference now. We can’t play a round robin football schedule, for example.

“After Tulane leaves, we’ll still have 10 teams. The thinking now is that we’ll never take in another school. Of course, everybody thinks about what’s best for themselves,” Graves added.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/28/1967, page B-8

NEW ORLEANS, LA, January 27, 1967 – …

The school presidents, however, rejected a bid to boost the total number of basketball and football grants past the present 140 limit, and they also turned down proposals that Florida State and Memphis State be taken into the conference.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/26/1968, page C-1

TAMPA, FL, January 25, 1968 – The possibility of Georgia Tech returning to the Southeastern Conference and Florida State winning membership was discussed informally by the officials Thursday night at the annual SEC meetings.

Tech has not indicated publicly that it wants to return to the SEC. Athletic Director Bobby Dodd said in Atlanta Thursday that such a decision was up to the administration, a Tech spokesman at the league meetings said.

Florida is sponsoring a recommendation that Florida State be admitted, but Florida Athletic Director Ray Graves said he believed the Seminoles could get in only if another team also joined.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/27/1968, page A-9

TAMPA, FL, January 26, 1968 – Southeastern Conference school presidents voted down a proposal by the University of Florida Friday to admit Florida State to the SEC.


From the Florida Times Union, 2/18/1968, page A-22

TALLAHASSEE, FL, February 17, 1968 – Florida State’s annual safari to the hallowed halls of the Southeastern Conference to seek membership has drawn a blank each time.

There are now those in Tallahassee who feel perhaps FSU has prostrated itself long enough. The Seminole war party is grown up now, and if the SEC doesn’t want them, forget it.

But there are also those who feel the other way. Not for more prostration, but for continued efforts to join.

Among those are Athletic Director Vaughn Mancha and FSU President Dr. John Champion.

Mancha is as weary of the annual brush-off as the president. But the former All-American from Alabama feels Florida State may be closer to membership than most people think.

“No one knows just how close we came in 1964,” Mancha stated, “when Georgia Tech dropped out. In fact, the late Bernie Shively of Kentucky, who was all in favor of our admission, told me to be sure and have Dr. Gordon Blackwell (FSU president at that time) there for the meeting to accept membership.

“But at that particular meeting we didn’t get a strong lobby from the University of Florida. They submitted our name, but that was about it. Also, LSU was strongly against our admission, favoring the smaller 10-team league.

“We still would have made it, I think, if political forces from the State of Tennessee hadn’t intervened on behalf of Memphis State, and the whole plan was pigeonholed.”

Since that time, Mancha said, when Florida State has asked for entry, there has been no strong voice raised on behalf of the Seminoles, although Florida has supported the move each time.

Dr. Champion believes President Stephen O’Connell of Florida will play a strong role in seeking admission for the Seminoles.

“I think President O’Connell wants us in the Southeastern Conference very much,” Dr. Champion said, “and we believe he will actively assist us in this quest.”

Manch agrees. “President O’Connell is a sincere and forthright man,” he said. “We discussed this proposition at the last SEC meeting in Tampa, and he told me he was going to do all he could to gain admittance for Florida State.”

Some local fans and sports authorities feel FSU is better off as an independent, but Mancha disputes this quite strongly.

“Our main problem in all athletics is scheduling,” Mancha said. “If we could gain membership in the SEC our problems would be lessened considerably. Too, every year the SEC has from four to six representatives in bowl games, and the split is quite substantial. Of course, we have become a good bowl team, too, so we would be giving a great deal to the SEC, not just taking.”

Mancha went into some detail about his scheduling, particularly in the two top sports, football and basketball.

“Right now, in our immediate scheduling, we have only Florida and Mississippi State as SEC opponents. The SEC is engaging in round-robin scheduling now, especially in basketball, and we’re not playing the teams we once were. This year in basketball we do not play Georgia, Auburn, Alabama or Mississippi State. It is getting that way in football, too.

“We are making some progress in future scheduling, but it is difficult. We have been successful in football negotiations with Auburn, with a six-year home-and-home contract starting in 1970.

“I am hopeful of making some arrangements with Alabama, but in cases like these the life of an athletic director can be hectic. Last year when we signed Alabama, Coach (Bill) Peterson had misgivings about it. He didn’t want any part of Alabama, but as things turned out, Alabama made our season for us.

“We are making some headway in future schedules,” Mancha said, “but it would be so much easier if we were sure of six conference games a year.”

Mancha listed some of the teams that look like “sure things” on future FSU schedules, including Texas, Georgia Tech, Baylor, Kansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Iowa State, Kansas State and Houston.

“I have a call to make to Penn State this week,” he said, “and I feel real good about a home and home signing with them.”

In addition to these teams, the Seminoles will have annual tussles with Florida, Miami and Virginia Tech. Georgia Tech has signed contracts for 1970, 1971 and 1975, and the Seminoles have signed to meet Clemson in Tallahassee in 1970 and 1976 and in Clemson in 1975.

Mancha said Florida State could probably get into the Atlantic Coast Conference quite easily, and the Seminoles even have been approached by the ACC. “But we play in the SEC’s neighborhood,” Mancha said. “Affiliation with the ACC in football, and especially basketball, would be fine,” he said, “but the other sports would suffer because of travel distances.”

The Seminoles are playing ACC opponents quite regularly in football, including South Carolina, N.C. State, Maryland, Wake Forest and now Clemson, but have made little progress in meeting these teams in basketball, with the exception of North Carolina.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/23/1969, page C-1

NEW ORLEANS, LA, January 22, 1969 – The annual meeting of Southeastern Conference officials started Wednesday with Florida State apparently poised to make a strong bid to join the 10-member league.

Athletic directors and football coaches discussed the possibility of Florida State coming into the conference along with another team to give the league a 12-team two-division alignment.

Florida State has tried annually to get into the conference and has been rebuffed every year. However, Florida Athletic Director Ray Graves said he thinks the Seminoles have a stronger chance this year.

“I think four or five of the schools may support Florida State,” said Graves, whose team plays Florida State every year anyway. He said he would like to see Georgia Tech return to the conference and the league be broken down into two divisions battling in a playoff for the SEC football title.

Florida State officials have prepared a brochure showing how the school has fared over the years against SEC teams, but there still seems to be considerable opposition within the league to enlarging the sprawling conference.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/25/1969, page A-18

NEW ORLEANS, LA, January 24, 1969 – Florida State was put off again Friday by the Southeastern Conference…

In other action, the SEC:

Delayed a move to admit Florida State to the SEC until a committee can study expansion of the conference. The committee will report on the question at next year’s SEC meeting at Tampa, Fl.


From the Florida Times Union, 9/16/1969, page A-14

TALLAHASSEE, FL, September 15, 1969 – State Chancellor Robert Mautz said Monday he plans a major campaign to get a Southeastern Conference berth for the Florida State University Seminoles.

Mautz said he has a “commitment” of active help from University of Florida President Stephen C. O’Connell and is counting on help from Harry Philpot, president of Auburn.

Philpot was a former vice president of the University of Florida as was Mautz before becoming chancellor of the whole state system.

Mautz said FSU needs to be in the SEC to attract bigger crowds from out-of-state for home games.

The conference now is down to 10 teams – Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Tennessee and Vanderbilt.

Annual bids by FSU have failed to bring the invitation for SEC membership although Tulane and Georgia Tech withdrew in recent years.


From the Florida Times Union, 1/31/1970, page A-17

TAMPA, FL, January 30, 1970 – The prestigious Southeastern Conference slammed its door in the face of Florida State and Memphis State Friday and made it clear that any school seeking admission during the 1970s will be wasting time.

The presidents of the 10 conference schools, at the closing session of the SEC’s 37th annual meeting here, voted 8-2 in support of a committee recommendation “against any expansion at the present time.”

The two schools voting to expand were the University of Florida, which has been pushing Florida State for membership for many years, and Tennessee, Memphis State’s sponsor.

Auburn President Harry Philpott, chairman of the expansion study committee, tried to soften the blow by pointing out the decision doesn’t lock the door “since obviously the conference can reopen the issue at any future meeting from year to year.”

But, Philpott added, “I personally don’t see expansion within the next decade. I think the SEC is big enough now. Maybe, but I’m not suggesting this, another conference should be formed.”


From the Florida Times Union, 1/30/1971, page D-4

NEW ORLEANS, LA, January 29, 1971 – Confident and content, the Southeastern Conference closed its doors to other schools and gave its commissioner a new six-year contract Friday.

The 38-yard-old league, which has never admitted a new member, changed its constitution to limit the membership to a maximum of 10 schools, which is its current size.

The action was considered an almost permanent end to the admission efforts of such independents as Florida State and Southern Mississippi. For a new school to get in now, one of the current 10 members would have to drop out, a conception which seemed remote.

The SEC started in 1933 with 13 members – the current 10 plus Sewanee, Georgia Tech and Tulane, who have dropped out.

Having spent six years in San Antonio, what worries me as a longtime Gator fan is that today’s Aggies are the Gators of the 1970s and 1980s. I ran across this article that compares the Aggies of today to the Gators right before the “Rise of the Gator” that Bear Bryant prophesied, that Florida was the sleeping giant about to be awakened.

What Bear Bryant meant was that in the late 1970s, the Florida economy was booming, richer people were moving in, the athletes were getting better, and the high school programs were becoming self-sustaining hotbeds of future NFL talent. He foresaw that the University of Florida football program was on the verge of something special. If it were not for the Charley Pell and Galen Hall NCAA infractions it would have been the Florida Gators taking advantage of the Florida economic boom of the 1980s, not Miami and FSU. Gator fans know the story well, that the SEC coaches conspired to expose Florida of its transgressions, with former Gators QB and HC Doug Dickey–who was chased out of Gainesville a few years earlier–leading the charge to knock down Florida. Despite those stumbling blocks, the Florida Gators are the most successful college football program of the past thirty years, beginning roughly in 1980 with the turnaround that occurred from 1979 to 1980, from 0-10-1 to 8-4. 1980 is widely considered the year of “the rise of the Gators”, or the fulfillment of that Bear Bryant prophesy. Some will say that the rise of the Gator occurred in 1990 with Steve Spurrier, but all he did was right the ship that Charley Pell and Galen Hall had led astray.

By the time Spurrier fulfilled the Bear Bryant prophecy of “waking the sleeping giant”, Miami and FSU had gained a decade of momentum. Spurrier had to do more with less against those two schools. He always had problems beating those two schools, especially on their turf–they had more future NFL talent than the Gators. The Gators may have been coached better, had better facilities, and had a better fan-base, but they were getting by with walk-ons like Chris Doering on offense while the ‘Canes and ‘Noles were doing well with a bevy of NFL talent. Florida’s only fast-track to the NFL in that timeframe was on defense, and with one faithful Gator running back, Emmitt Smith.

Now look at Texas A&M. They are are football program on the up-and-up, while the Texas Longhorns are plateauing or possibly plummeting. The Aggies will be snagging Texas talent that would have gone to Texas, Baylor, and Texas Tech in favor of the opportunity to play in the best conference in the world. That is the SEC, in case you have not figure that out. On top of that, as the economy in the state of Florida is declining right now, the economy in Texas has been virtually recession proof over the past few years. The talent in Texas is only going to get better. This may be the tail end of Florida being the nexus of football talent gravitating towards the University of Florida, and the beginning of Texas being that nexus of talent, with all the best athletes gravitating towards Texas A&M.

The Florida Gators have enjoyed being the most successful football program over the past 30 years, and they have done it free of NCAA sanctions. After the Gators faced back-to-back NCAA infractions in the 1980s, the University of Florida made it a priority to keep the program clean. It also became important to do a better job of mixing homegrown Florida talent with the best out-of-state talent it could muster. It will become more important for the Florida Gators to beat the Aggies, and maybe snag some of those Texas athletes in addition to homegrown Florida boys, at least in the short term. In the long term, I am afraid that 2012 is the year of the rise of the Aggies. The population of Florida is declining, and the economy in the state is tanking. Now that Texas has a foot hold in the SEC, I can see the Aggies drawing power away from the Alabama Crimson Tide and the Florida Gators. A&M has more money in its fan-base, it has a richer fan-base, it has a much larger television market, and it now has momentum after symbolically usurping the throne from Alabama in its 29-24 victory this season.

The Florida Gators may be the most successful football program of the last 30 years, but the A&M Aggies will likely be the most successful program of the next 30 years.

Johnny Manziel may very well win the Heisman as a redshirt freshman tonight, and only one defense really contained him–the Gator defense. Manziel praised the Gators as being one of the top defenses his team faced, and that they were very quick [Sun Sentinel]. That being said, let us debunk a couple myths, and then look at his games.

Point 1. First, Aggie fans will say that the only reason aTm lost is that it wast their first game of the season. Well, the Aggies lost to LSU 19-24 later in the season as they got better against a similar defense and offense as the Gators–a team that Florida beat 14-6. It would be reasonable to assume that no matter where in the schedule aTm played Florida or LSU that it would be a low scoring affair, and aTm needs to pile 4 scores onto an opponent in order to win games. On top of that, there is no guarantee that they would have beaten Louisiana Tech in their first game of the season, considering how they barely beat them in the rescheduled game in week 7, 59-57. Are you ****ing kidding me! Where is the defense? Johnny Manziel was the Aggie defense–just score so many points that the opponent cannot keep up! Here are Johnny Football’s offensive outputs per game. Even the paltry Mizzou’s Amoeba Defense had some success against Manziel’s rushing offense in their matchup–not so much with the passing offense. Summary: the Aggies would have lost against an elite SEC defense in week 1 or week 12 nine times out of ten. 

  1. Louisiana Tech – postponed
  2. Florida 23/30, 173 yds5.8 ypa0 TD, 0 INT60 yds rushing, 1 TD, L 17-20, 233 yds tot off
  3. SMU 20/36, 294 yds, 8.2 ypa, 4 TD, 0 INT, 124 yds rushing, 2 TD, W 48-3
  4. SC State 15/20, 174 yds, 8.7 ypa, 3 TD, 0 INT, 78 yds rushing, 2 TD, W 70-14, 244 yds tot off
  5. Arkansas 29/38, 453 yds, 11.9 ypa, 3 TD, 0 INT, 104 yds rushing, 1 TD, W 58-10
  6. Ole Miss 17/26, 191 yds, 7.3 ypa, 1 TD, 2 INT, 129 yds rushing, 1 TD, W 30-27
  7. Louisiana Tech 24/40, 395 yds, 9.9 ypa, 3 TD, 1 INT, 181 yds rushing, 3 TD, W 59-57
  8. LSU 29/56, 276 yds, 4.9 ypa0 TD3 INT, 82 yds rushing, 1 TD, L 19-24
  9. Auburn 16/23, 260 yds, 11.3 ypa, 2 TD, 0 INT, 90 yds rushing, 3 TD, W 63-21
  10. Mississippi State 30/36, 311 yds, 8.6 ypa, 0 TD, 0 INT, 129 yds rushing, 2 TD, W 38-13
  11. Alabama 24/31, 253 yds, 8.2 ypa, 2 TD, 0 INT, 92 yds rushing, 0 TD, W 29-24
  12. Sam Houston State 14/20, 267 yds, 13.4 ypa, 3 TD, 1 INT, 100 yds rushing, 2 TD, W 47-28
  13. Missouri 32/44, 372 yds, 8.5 ypa, 3 TD, 1 INT, 67 yds rushing, 2 TD, W 59-29

Point 2. What this shows us is that, yes, Florida did keep Johnny Football to his lowest output in the season. If you are an aTM homer, you will argue that they only limited him because it was his first game, but look what powerhouse SC State did later in the season–limit him almost as much as Florida did. Also look how explosive La Tech was in all their games. There is no guarantee that aTm would have piled on 2 more points than La Tech in game 1 when they almost lost to them at midseason with a horrendous defensive stand. Then look what LSU did at midseason, and what Mizzou did in the end of the season. Their argument that Johnny football is unstoppable except when inexperienced is a fallacy. Good defense beat good offenses sometimes. It just so happens that Florida’s defense was the best Johnny faced all year. The next best defense was LSU’s, and he lost that game despite throwing for 3 TDs and 276 yds. Summary: Yes, Manziel got better over the course of the season, but his team still lost two games against elite defenses. Point out Alabama all you want. AJ McCarron was only one pass away from beating A&M and rendering this a moot discussion.

Point 3. To say that Manziel would have fared better against an elite defense later in the season is sheer madness! The Gator defense had absolutely no film on the Aggies to study with. Manziel “only” amassed 190 yards of offense against a VANILLA DEFENSE. The Gators even spotted the Aggies a few plays by being too aggressive and getting penalties that helped the young freshman move the ball closer to the goal line. Once the Gators went into the locker room at the half, the Aggies were done. The Gator defense did what they did to EVERY OTHER OFFENSE (except maybe the feisty Vanderbilt offense and a couple minutes of the Seminole offense) and shut down the second half offense to the tune of 49 yards. Summary: The Gator defense absolutely shut down Manziel, and would have done it at any point in the season. It is the one thing that the Gators can do well.

 

The Florida Gators had five players selected to the first team including senior running back Mike Gillislee, redshirt senior kicker Caleb Sturgis, junior defensive tackle Sharrif Floyd, junior safety Matt Elam and sophomore punter Kyle Christy.

Gators redshirt junior tight end Jordan Reed and senior Mike linebacker Jon Bostic were placed on the All-SEC second team.

Read more: http://www.onlygators.com/12/04/2012/seven-gators-named-to-all-sec-teams-by-coaches/#ixzz2EBMxWTNW
ONLY GATORS Get Out Alive

 

[The Florida Gators] needed 10 [points] in the fourth quarter to hold off Bowling Green in the season opener… Missouri, Louisiana-Lafayette, and Jacksonville State was unwatchable and had critics wondering not only if the Gators were for real but if the SEC was actually a house of cards built on a foundation of lies and propaganda.

But, when you focus on the negatives, you tend to ignore the positives. Florida held Texas A&M and their soon to be Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Johnny Football scoreless in the second half in College Station. The win at Tennessee was a little more impressive… The Gators out LSU’d LSU 14-6 in the Swamp. They quadrupled up South Carolina 44-11 in maybe the greatest defensive/special teams game by any team in 2012.

But it wasn’t until the Gators walked into Tallahassee and pounded Florida State did everyone finally begin to acknowledge what the Gators just accomplished.

 

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2012/florida-is-learning-to-be-ugly/

The Florida Gators beat in-state rival FSU 37-26 after racking up 24 straight points. Before that run, the Noles looked as if they had deflated the Gators, but Florida rallied behind Mike Gillislee. The Gators finished with 394 total yards to FSU’s 300, with 244 of those yards coming off Gillislee and Driskel running.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=323290052

My notes:

  • The Gators once again had to overcome “adversity on the field” thanks to some boneheaded calls from the officials. Case in point: calling a Gator defender for pass interference after the receiver shoves the defender onto the ground and still misses the pass! Two more cases in point: blown calls from the officials on two Gator receptions. Jordan Reed’s reception looked just like the reception that UGA made against Florida in the WLOCP. Trey Burton’s reception clearly shows a reception, or that there is not enough footage to make it not a reception.
  • The Gator offensive line did not figure out how to block FSU’s two bookends until the second half. Even then, QB Jeff Driskel fumbled the ball into Werner’s lap during the Gator meltdown.
  • Mike Gillislee is a stud. Great day from the senior running back.
  • Jeff Driskel needs to heal in order to make the plays he needs to make. Early in the game his adrenaline levels were high enough to let him run 30+ yards on a broken play. By the second half, he was not very mobile.
  • How about that FSU “#1 defense”?

http://www.alligatorarmy.com/2012/11/17/3658344/florida-vs-jacksonville-state-game-thread-2012-senior-day

The Florida Gators defeated the Jacksonville State Gamecocks 23-0, as expected. For Senior Day, the Gator fans at the Swamp bid farewell to the following seniors:

# 1. Jonathan Bostic LB 6-3 242, Palm Beach Central HS, Wellington FL

# 9. Josh Evans DB 6-1 199, Irvington HS, Irvington NJ

#16. Scott Peek RB 6-2 225, Freedom HS, Tampa FL

#19. Caleb Sturgis K 5-11 183, St. Augustine HS, St. Augustine FL

#20. Omarius Hines RB 6-2 220, Corsicana HS, Corsicana FL

#23. Mike Gillislee RB 5-11 198, Deland HS, Deland FL

#29. Solomon Schoonover RB 6-3 225, Aventura HS, Aventura FL

#33. Minch Minchin LB 6-2 198, Gainesville HS, Gainesville FL

#34. Lerentee McCray LB 6-2 246, Dunnellen HS, Ocala FL

#34. Jason Traylor FB 5-10 233 West Melbourne HS, West Melbourne FL

#40. David Lerner P 6-0 194, Gainesville HS, Gainesville FL

#50. Cody Hampton LS 5-11 217, St. Petersburg HS, St. Petersburg FL

#50. Sam Robey OL 6-3 297, Trinity HS, Louisville KY

#58. Nick Alajajian DL 6-4 275, Naples HS, Naples FL

#66. James Wilson OL 6-4 334, Nease HS, St. Augustine FL

#73. Xavier Nixon OL 6-6 293, Jack Britt HS, Fayetteville NC

#85. Frankie Hammond Jr. WR 6-1 184, Hallendale HS, Hollywood FL

#91. Earl Okine DL 6-7 272, Gaineville HS, Gainesville FL

#98. Zack Brust K 6-1 191, Stanton College Prep, Jacksonville FL

#99. Omar Hunter DL 6-1 305, Buford HS, Buford GA

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